What the &^%##@^is wrong with that German driver? If you cant drive, then dont join this competition and ruin it for other drivers. If you make a mistake once, ok, but this man makes mistake after mistake! And every time he takes other drivers with him in his downfall. Its an absolute disgrase for the race sport to have a driver like that on the tracks. Im wundering what the german fans think of this driver.

never mind, germany got what it deserves in the main race!

I do believe that Germany and A1GP have to look at this situation very carefully. Michael has rightly amassed a reputation of poor driving not only with the fans but now also apparently his fellow drivers. There is such a fine line between being a successful aggressive driver and a complete nightmare. He is not frightened to have a go and indeed could be a brilliant driver, but unless he is helped professionally to not only drive with more care and also change his very arrogant attitude, I'm afraid his career could be cut rather short.

Maybe A1GP should introduce a point deduction system in addition to race exclusion. If you have been very naughty, then you lose 10 points or whatever. At least that would move GBR up a place in the table!

Any idea that results in Team GBR moving up the standings sounds good to me!  In all seriousness this is now becoming a major problem, and maybe points deductions could be used to try and sort it out.

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Showman:

Maybe A1GP should introduce a point deduction system in addition to race exclusion. If you have been very naughty, then you lose 10 points or whatever.

Why to punish the whole team for the stupid mistakes one single man did? Please think about what you wrote in the "Well done, Mexico" thread, Showman.

 

Showman:

At least that would move GBR up a place in the table!

That's no argument - and I'm sure you are aware of that.

hientje:

Im wundering what the german fans think of this driver.

I can tell you what I thought resp. think. When Ammermüller crashed in the back of the Dutch car today, I couldn't believe it - especially with the incidents at Sepang*** still in my mind. I hoped he could make these things forgotten - with fast and fair driving (as seen during the Zhuhai feature race with Adrian Zaugg) - and now again a very stupid move at a place where you simply can't overtake!!! For me it was immediately clear that he would get a (deserved) penalty - and so it happened. When I listened to his interview ("not my fault" etc.) I only thought: "Oh no, the bashing will begin all over again."

(***short notice: I still have the opinion that the time penalty for his move against Canada in the sprint race was undeserved - in contrast to the other ones of course)

hientje, I completely understand your temper as (supposed) Dutch fan, but please don't forget that it has also been the other way round in the past. In the feature race at Estoril in 2005 Jos Verstappen took Adrian Sutil out with a stupid overtaking manoeuvre - it could have been Team Germany's very first podium (and Sutil did not get any points in contrast to Bleekemolen today).

I think Ammermuller should have his licence endorsed,banned for 3 events and take an anger management course,he reminds me of another certain MICHAEL that had to get passed and have his own way at any cost.

Hi Lutz

Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, this IS a team effort and because of Michaels' actions today he was excluded from the race results and obviously all of the teams hard efforts are wasted. So everyone suffers anyway.

I happen to think that Michael is a very talented driver and potentially has a great future. However, with someone like Michael it may take something harsh before he realises that his attitude is all wrong to this and he can't go through life blaming everything and everyone around him.

As I am sure you are aware, in order to be a successful racing driver these days you not only need to be talented but also very able to get on with people and have a good personality. He is starting to alienate a lot of people including drivers and it would be such a shame to see his career cut short because nobody is properly managing him. Willy Webber will not put up with him for too much longer if he starts to bring controversy to the team all the time.

The big difference between him and Jos was that Jos was able to see half a REALISTIC chance and go for it. Sometimes it paid off and sometimes it didn't. That was and is part of racing. Michael, it appears, has not got that right yet and wrecks it for himself AND the team every time.

My comment about GBR moving up a place in the table is of course no argument - it is what is called English humour. The remark was intended to be flippant and no need for it to be taken seriously.

 

Kind Regards 

Showman:

...and obviously all of the teams hard efforts are wasted. So everyone suffers anyway.

And that's exactly why I don't like the idea of a "point deduction system" - the team is punished enough with the missing points. If a driver is "very naughty" as you say, he should be banned for one race or two.

Germany has really great drivers, they should simply drop Ammermule . He's a poor driver with one of the best maintained teams which always can make sure he's got a great car.

 Ammermule (yes, the R being left out for a reason) is a disgrace to his own country, he should join some demolition derby class instead, he'd be an expert at it. He just doesn't have the character, preparation, skill or any amount of talent for a world class driver, even in a local series he would still be considered as nothing more than a pig behind the wheel.

 

Do the series a favor Ammermule, and get back to washing dishes or anything that you can actually handle, you're way over your head.  

thats the thing with german drivers you have only got to look a f1 to see it.if they arnt doing well they either punt someone off the track or do something els stupid.got to be something to do with the name me thinks

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it's not a sport it's part of life!!!

even though ger is or sister team i agree with some thing needs to be done, but none of the points reductions etc that has been sugestted, bit hard to thin k of a fair why of helping him become a better driver, but what really surprised me was team SA only getting a fine for the same thing that team GER did, even Adrian said it was his fault and he could have stop it from happening

got to remem only just b4 feature race did Michael Ammermuller say it wasnt his fault, we dont really know what happen between the 2 races, same goes with after race with Adrian Zaugg 

 

I think Adrian Zaugg  apologised just after race proberly went towards him keeping his points,even in interview he thought though body and tone and what he said he was going to lose points

I am new to A1GP but I have to admit, I think Ammermuller  is a menace to the safety of other drivers.  "Stuff" happens and drivers make errors (that's racing!) but most drivers will admit when they have screwed up and be humble!   I don't think Ammermuller was deliberately trying to take anyone out but his actions were reckless.  He wants to win at any cost. I think it is just his cocky attitude that bothers me the most.  His interview before the feature race blew me away.  He still takes no responsibility for his actions!!!

The incident with Adrian Zaugg in my opinion was even more reckless and dangerous but at least he had the decency to apologize.  A1Gp should be consistent with it's punishment though.  I think Zaugg's "incident" was much worse then Ammermuller's and he only got a slap on the wrist.  He took out a number of cars in a completely insane move where he no room what so ever!

Ammermuller has built up a reputation of being a menace and unfortunately for him (and fortunately for everyone else) he is paying the price. 

Adrian Zaugg did try to brake at least 15meters before the corner, nothing happened. I know because the incident happened infront of me and you could see the tyre markes. It was certainly abitious, but I feel it was a genuine racing error.

The German, Ammermuller on the other hand seemed to be continuosly tapping the driver in front of him, particularly before they crashed.

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